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what about horror movie ads is a felony?

That Tumblr shows horror movie ads with creepy animated gifs inline in my dashboard drives me up a wall. It hasn’t happened to me in a while, and they did switch to using tags in the posts (like #gif #horror #movies), which helps some. And the ones I’ve seen lately have seemed a little tamer than the batch that were bothering me last year.

You can read the posts I’ve made in the #sponsored posts tag for more details about how much this bugs me, if you’re so inclined.

mrforrest:

lies:

mrforrest:

People complaining about sponsored posts are infuriating because 

1) I guarantee they scroll right past vapid bullshit on their dash all the time
2) They don’t understand that running a website, especially one as large, complex, and data intensive as Tumblr, costs an actual shitload of money per day, and the only way to fund that is either a) charge users, b) sell ads/sponsored posts, c) finding angel/venture capital which pretty much requires option b to happen at some point down the road.

Now, I get that Yahoo! bought up tumblr, but they were gonna get bought at some point, welcome to the internet ya twats. That’s how social media sites have and always will work.

I don’t complain about sponsored posts per se, for the reasons you outline, among others. But you’re wrong about Tumblr’s implementation of sponsored posts. Their inclusion of shocking gore as part of horror movie ads, inline in users’ dashboards with no means to opt out (at least on the mobile platform, though I can use Tumblr Savior on the desktop, thankfully), is a violation of Tumblr’s own community guidelines. More about that here.

It’s true that there’s a lot of inanity in my dash. But there isn’t any gore, or wouldn’t be if Tumblr didn’t force me to see it against my will as a condition of using the site. I don’t think Tumblr has the right to do that. If they can’t stay in business without doing that, they don’t deserve to stay in business.

The gore bit is unacceptable, however, I had no idea that there were sponsored posts containing gore (what movie ad are you referring to?), nor have I seen anyone else complain about gore-related sponsored posts. Nearly 100% of the sponsored posts I have seen are about fast food, cell phones, or cars. I’m not trying to degredate your negative experience, I’m just saying I think it might be more isolated than you think. The complaints I see are mostly aimless pointless OMG TUMBLR PUT ADS ON OMG WTF I’M LEAVING TUMBLR FOREVER OMG DELETED BYE type posts, not well constructed things like this.

I didn’t bother saving this one; I’m trying to get better at just ignoring them and moving on. Tumblr’s chosen to do this, I’ve explained to them why I object to it, and they’ve decided they don’t care. I can either leave or stay, but either way I’m trying to tone down my yelling about it (recent yelling notwithstanding).

This particular ad was for the remake of the movie Carrie. It featured a collection of animated GIFs with the iconic image of Carried covered in blood in the center square. I didn’t study the post to see what the rest of it showed; that image was enough to dredge up my memories of the original (which I’m sure was the intent of those who created the post), and having had that forcibly inserted into my brain I didn’t want to linger.

There are examples of ads for two other movies linked to from the post I made previously in this thread. There was a fourth movie I managed to mostly ignore between those two and this latest one. It looks like Tumblr runs sponsored posts for a horror movie about once a month or so.

mrforrest:

People complaining about sponsored posts are infuriating because 

1) I guarantee they scroll right past vapid bullshit on their dash all the time
2) They don’t understand that running a website, especially one as large, complex, and data intensive as Tumblr, costs an actual shitload of money per day, and the only way to fund that is either a) charge users, b) sell ads/sponsored posts, c) finding angel/venture capital which pretty much requires option b to happen at some point down the road.

Now, I get that Yahoo! bought up tumblr, but they were gonna get bought at some point, welcome to the internet ya twats. That’s how social media sites have and always will work.

I don’t complain about sponsored posts per se, for the reasons you outline, among others. But you’re wrong about Tumblr’s implementation of sponsored posts. Their inclusion of shocking gore as part of horror movie ads, inline in users’ dashboards with no means to opt out (at least on the mobile platform, though I can use Tumblr Savior on the desktop, thankfully), is a violation of Tumblr’s own community guidelines. More about that here.

It’s true that there’s a lot of inanity in my dash. But there isn’t any gore, or wouldn’t be if Tumblr didn’t force me to see it against my will as a condition of using the site. I don’t think Tumblr has the right to do that. If they can’t stay in business without doing that, they don’t deserve to stay in business.

Oh, look: Another sponsored-post horror movie gif in my dashboard.

Fuck you, David Karp.

Aug 5

Sponsored Posts on My Dash?

silverbluemoon:

Hey you guys, I honestly don’t remember, so can you help me out? Have we always had “sponsored” posts come up on out dashes? Or is this new? I don’t remember ever seeing them before this morning.

It’s new-ish on the website, having been around for a few months now with varying degrees of intensity. They may have begun rolling it out to more users recently, though. Running tests on a subset of your users is a common practice in the Web world.

Note that you can use Tumblr Savior or XKit to block them on the desktop, at least currently. Details about that (along with some propaganda about my least-favorite of the sponsored posts) is here.

If you’re browsing Tumblr using a mobile app, the sponsored posts have been around longer, going back at least several months. Sadly, there’s no way to block the ads if you’re using the app, since apps don’t support plugins and you’re stuck with the Tumblr-delivered experience.

Reblog if you think Tumblr should stop making users watch horror movie ads against their will

Details here. Thanks.

Tumblr should stop making users watch horror movie ads against their will

I mostly didn’t mind when Tumblr started running “Sponsored Posts” in my dashboard. Tumblr has to make money. Most of the ads were boring, a few were interesting, but they weren’t a big deal.

Then the horror movie ads started.

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The creepy dude I can’t unfollow

To: support@tumblr.com

Fr: John Callender (jbc@jbcsystems.com)

Subject: Community Guidelines violation

Hi. I’d like to report a fellow Tumblr user for violation of Tumblr’s Community Guidelines. This user appears to have some sort of special access to my dashboard, where he has been repeatedly posting disturbing images of violence, suicide, and self-harm. I appear to be unable to stop this.

I don’t want to promote these posts any more than they already have been, but it’s important for you to understand what I’m talking about. Here are links to a few of them. (Warning: They contain images that are graphic and disturbing.)

http://universalhorrorfilms.tumblr.com/post/50444456345

http://theconjuringmovie.tumblr.com/post/56818251610

These are the two that bothered me the most, but there have been many others. Presumably there will be more in the future.

Tumblr’s Community Guidelines prohibit the following activity:

Malicious Bigotry. Don’t actively promote violence or extreme hatred against individuals or groups, on the basis of… gender.

The posts in question appear to skew in a gender-specific fashion. I haven’t analyzed them in detail, but from the quick exposure I’ve had they appear to disproportionately depict women as the terrified victims of violence, while showing men as grinning perpetrators.

Granted, the sword-wielding woman in the first post linked to above is something of an exception. Whether these posts actually promote violence or hatred against women is a debatable point, so maybe we should give the posts a pass on that particular guideline. But the Community Guidelines also state:

Promotion and Glorification of Self-Harm. Don’t post content that actively promotes or glorifies self-harm. This includes content that urges or encourages readers to cut or injure themselves… or commit suicide rather than, e.g., seeking counseling or treatment… We aim to sustain Tumblr as a place that facilitates awareness, support and recovery, and to remove only those blogs that cross the line into active promotion or glorification of self-harm.

I think these posts do, in fact, cross the line into active promotion or glorification. Their dramatic depictions of violence, including the sword-wielding, blood-spattered young woman in the first image, and the dangling feet of the suicide victim in the second, are profoundly disturbing, and are presented with no hint that they are intended to promote awareness, support, or recovery. For Tumblr users who are struggling with issues of self-harm and suicide to encounter these images against their will and without warning could be extremely harmful.

The Community Guidelines continue:

Gore and Mutilation Content. Don’t post gore just to be shocking. Don’t showcase the mutilation or torture of human beings, animals, or their remains.

The posts in question clearly violate this guideline. The person responsible for these is posting gore intended to be shocking, showcasing the mutilation and torture of human beings, and depicting dead human remains.

Please enforce Tumblr’s Community Guidelines by restricting this user from posting this sort of content. At a minimum, let me know how I and other users who object to these posts can block them from appearing in our dashboards.

I’m not sure who the user responsible for these posts is, but from what I’ve read I think it might be this guy:

http://www.davidslog.com/

He reportedly makes these sorts of decisions at Tumblr. I could be wrong, though; he also posts to the blog at http://staff.tumblr.com, where he recently wrote this:

Making sure people aren’t surprised by content they find offensive is also incredibly important and we are always working to put more control in your hands.

So maybe it’s actually someone else who’s doing this. Regardless, it needs to stop. Please investigate and let me know what you find out. Thanks.

John Callender

jbc@jbcsystems.com

http://lies.tumblr.com

God fucking dammit, Tumblr

anonsally:

aivley:

[snipped]

1. There is a way to block all sponsored posts by blocking the $ symbol on them. But I don’t remember how to do that and it certainly won’t work forever.

Using Tumblr Savior, I think you can blacklist sponsored_badge_icon ?

2. I don’t understand their algorithm for handing out these ads. I’ve had neither of the horror movies (so far…) but I did have vh1’s Lets-Objectify-Women ad.

My best guess is, there is no algorithm at all. They just have a few ads and they show up at random, with no relation at all to what is on your blog or dash.

3. Mostly I’m frustrated because tumblr could have come up with really cool ways to do advertising* but instead they chose the absolute most boring and, incidentally, the one that is the least consumer friendly.

Exactly.

4. I understand if you choose to leave but I will miss you.

That was addressed to lies, and I want to echo the sentiment.

*For instance:

 - have us choose one “ad-blog” to follow per 100 regular blogs. (this would be a pretty great way to do it i think.)

 - have us select a classification rating (eg G, PG, M) and/or the ability to block certain topics (like tags!) like: suicide, nudity… etc??

 - have us select, from a list, several topics of ads.

I like these ideas for other ways they could handle advertising that would be more friendly. So, signal boosting.

Thank all of you who’ve been willing to think and post about possible solutions for this.

Just to clarify, I think I’ve almost always seen the horror movie sponsored posts on the Tumblr iPad app, rather than when browsing Tumblr on my computer. I believe sponsored posts were introduced first on the app, before they ever appeared on the website, and it appears that sponsored posts are still more intrusively implemented (with more ads/worse ads) on the app. I think that was true even before I started using Tumblr Savior in an effort to block the sponsored posts when viewing the website (which I’ve now done).

I don’t know if the ads being worse on the app is intentional, or if it’s just a side-effect of the development pipeline for the app working differently than the one for the website. Having worked on development teams that were delivering both app-based and web-based interfaces, it wouldn’t surprise me if updating the app takes substantially longer than updating the website, which could mean that even if Tumblr chose to respond to the complaints there might be delays before any changes filtered down to the app (or they might choose to just leave the app with the old behavior, even if they backed off from running the horror movie sponsored posts on the website).

Besides technical issues, there could be business issues involved as well. For example, it might be that Tumblr entered into a sales agreement that commits them to running a certain amount of horror movie advertising. Even if a negative response from their users made them decide that they didn’t want to continue running the ads, there might be a big difference for them between letting the current agreement expire without renewing it, versus canceling it in mid-stream. I could see that being a factor in the noncommittal responses they’ve been making to the complaints.

Still yet more whining about untagged horror in sponsored posts

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